Daily verticals recorded on the Skiline system
Posted: 03 February 2009 04:35 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Following from the news item on electronic lift passes producing daily logs, I thought perhaps it would be amusing to invite forum members to record their logged verticals in a thread here. Not that one wants to encourage competitive skiing, of course ...
 
But to get things started, I offer the figure of 9,300m that editor Watts and I recorded in the SkiWelt in January.
 
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Posted: 05 February 2009 02:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Neat! I’ll see what tracklogs and speed our gps recorded on my visits last week…
 
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Posted: 05 February 2009 05:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I’ve downloaded SnowTrails for my iPhone. It should give me something similar (I hope) to Skiline, including speed, G force etc - let’s wait and see if it works of course. Won’t have the info for a month though.
Talking of competitve - how fast can you ski the slalom on Wii Fit - 18.96 is my best!

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Posted: 07 February 2009 05:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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The electronic lift passes create an opportunity to follow the day’s vertical. There have been wrist computers for the same purpose for a long time.
Checking files I see I logged several international ski trips on my Vertech Avocet as early as 1995. It totals the vertical and also gives a max. vertical speed reading. The wrist computer is still working. Later I added a Suunto S6 ski computer with the same facilities and a way of downloading a file on computer. It would show a graphic illustration of the ascents and descents giving a choice of 2, 10, or 60 second interval measurements. Later I added a Suunto X6HR with heart rate measurement, allowing you to follow how a steep downhill would result in quick increase in heart rate. I had used Polar herat rate monitors when they first came out and found it interesting to follow the rate when at glacier heights. In early days resting heart rates at 3000 m already entailed a aerobic (endurance level) workout. At that height a heart rate monitor with a warning signal is useful to indicate when the heart rate rises too high.
The vertical maximum is a derivative of the efficiency of the lifts (and dependent on queues). Cable cars generally are the most efficient reaching vertical speeds of near 400 m/min (I am not counting helicopters). This allows for a lot of vertical downhill, as well.
I have usually reached a large vertical at Bad Hofgastein, and looking up a 2004 visit, the maximum daily was 18,665m, but this is in no way maximising the verical since a day’s skiing would include a lot of less efficient lifts, even very slow T-bars. I have seen mentions of twice this vertical. I have yet to try to maximize the vertical since after 6-8 runs "racing the cable car down" I get bored and want to try something else.
A wrist computer may encourage competing (with oneself), but the major benefit is to allow you to pace yourself and follow your development. At great heights, getting a warning signal for the risk of altitude sickness is valuable.

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Posted: 13 February 2009 05:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yeah, we’ve been using wrist altimeters for many years, too. The great thing about Skiline is (a) nothing to buy and (b) nothing to remember to turn on, and turn off when a gondola does a dip of 300m.
 
As you say, cable cars are in principle the instrument of choice for maximising vertical, although timetables as well as queues may affect the outcome.
 
It maybe worth reproducing this extract from the original news posting:
 
On the Skiline website a table is published of the top 100 verticals logged in a day. Some of the figures reached are pretty impressive - top of the SkiWelt rankings is a day of 33,495m.
 
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Posted: 20 February 2009 03:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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My father and his skiing friends evolved in the 1960s the concept of skiing an "Everest" at least one day each holiday in suitable resorts.  According to Wikipedia, this translates to a vertical of 8,848 metres (29,029 ft). The rules of engagement allow repeated use of a lift but NO repetition of a run (minor transgressions for access, etc not counting towards the total).  It mandates access to a large ski area and is achievable the Four Valleys, Val d’Isere+Tignes, Klosters+Davos and I hope this year to try Zermatt+Cervinia.  It might seem mundane compared with some of the verticals mentioned in this thread but it is an entertaining challange well within the capabilities of intermediate skiers if capable of catching the first lift and planning.  Fun for a family group.

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Posted: 20 February 2009 05:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Sounds like great fun. We did a Zermatt+Cervinia one last season - starting on the Rothorn and going right across to the Klein Matterhorn, before taking a long descent towards Valtournenche on the Cervinia side, then skiing back across and all the way back to Zermatt town - boy, did my legs ache after all that!
 
I don’t know what the vertical was that day, but the resort is good for clocking it up especially when you combine the long runs from glacier to town - have a great time.

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